Johnson / Bryans Families

Tracing the ancestry of Pamela Murdoch Bryans and Maurice Alan Johnson

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Roger Gipps, of Newington[1]

Male Abt 1610 - Aft 1663  (~ 54 years)

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  • Name Roger Gipps 
    Relationshipwith Marion Murdoch Johnson
    Gender Male 
    Birth Abt 1610 
    Death Aft 1663  [2] 
    Siblings 1 brother and 1 sister 
    Last Modified 1 Apr 2021 

    Father Thomas Gipps, of London
              b. Abt 1570  
              d. Abt 1650 (Age ~ 80 years) 
    Mother Mary Sherwood
              b. 1 Nov 1572, Ludlow, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage 22 Oct 1599  St Mary Aldermanbury, City of London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3] 

    Wife Helen Brockman
              b. Abt 1619  
              d. Abt Oct 1660 (Age ~ 41 years) 
    Marriage 10 May 1637  Hadlow, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 5] 
    Age at Marriage Roger was ~ 27 years old - Helen was ~ 18 years old. 
    Children 
     1. William Gipps, of Smeeth
              b. Abt 1637  
              d. 1694 (Age ~ 57 years)
     2. Simon Gipps, of Charing
              b. Abt 1648  
              d. 1690, Charing, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 42 years)
     3. George Gipps, of Wye
              b. 1646  
              d. 1706 (Age 60 years)
    Last Modified 31 Mar 2021 

  • Notes 
    • Early Life
      Roger Gipps was the son of Thomas Gipps (a London clothworker) and Mary Sherwood. He was likely born around 1610 (or earlier) given that his mother was born in 1572.

      Family Life
      Roger married Helen Brockman, most likely around 16371. Helen was the daughter of Sir William Brockman of Newington-next-Hythe in Kent, and Anne Bunce. Note that Roger Brockman's sister Sarah married James Bunce, Helen Brockman's first cousin. So there was clearly a strong relationship between the Brockman and Gipps families at this time. Roger and Helen settled in Newington after the marriage.

      With Helen Brockman (who is listed as Ellen in the parish records), Roger had:

      1. William, bapt. 2 Sep 1638 or 1639 (there are records of both) at St Nicholas, Newington Next Hythe
      2. Thomas, bapt. 15 Apr 1640 at St Michael Bassishaw, London
      3. Anne, bapt. 18 Apr 1641 at St Nicholas
      4. Helen, bapt. 9 Jun 1644 at St Nicholas
      5. James, bapt. 2 Aug 1645 at St Nicholas
      6. George, bapt. 13 October 1646 at St Nicholas
      7. Simon, bapt. 23 April 1648 at St Nicholas and who married Anne Landman
      8. Margery, bapt. 10 Sep 1650 at St Nicholas and who died apparently unmarried in 1708
      9. Phoebe, bapt. 26 Mar 1655 at St Nicholas (father shown as 'Rope")


      Simon and George are both listed as sons of Roger in Berry's County Genealogies3 and also recorded in Hasted2. Hasted further indicates that Simon was the eldest, followed by George, then William, but this clearly doesn't match the baptismal records - though perhaps they were the eldest to survive into adulthood. Note that the baptismal entry for Simon is not indexed properly, but luckily appears on the same page as his siblings James, George and Margery.

      Roger may have married again, to a Susanna Moore, in 1665 in London. The marriage entry notes both Roger and Susanna were widows from previous marriages. This Roger is noted to be 59 years' old, making his birth year 1606. Perhaps it was actually 1607 and this is the source of the "marriage year" mistakenly shown in County Genealogies. There are two versions of this entry: in one he is shown as 59, in the other 50: evidently the original manuscript makes it hard to tell between a 0 and a 9.

      Death
      Roger Gipps was alive for the Visitation of Kent in 1663; and clearly if he was the person who married Susanna Moore he was still alive in 1665 and may have moved to London. Unfortunately I can't find any trace of a burial record for him, whether in Newington Next Hythe, or in London St Botolphs (where he married Susanna Moore). A couple of Ancestry trees have him dying in 1685 with no sources.

      Footnotes
      [1] Roger cannot have married in 1607 as shown in County Genealogies (see third footnote) because their eldest son William was born in 1638 or 1639; Hasted (next footnote) gives a date of 1637.
      [2] The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent, Edward Hasted, p147 (footnote)
      [3] County Genealogies: Pedigrees of the Families of the County of Kent, William Berry, London (1830), p462

  • Event Map
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  • Sources 
    1. [S0505] William Berry, County Genealogies: Pedigrees of the Families of the County of Kent, (London (1830)), Gipps; page 462.

    2. [S0507] Edward Bysshe, Visitation of the County of Kent 1663-1668, (Harleian Society, London, 1906), Gipps of Mersam; page 66.

    3. [S0309] FamilySearch, England Marriages, 1538–1973, (familysearch.org), 22 Oct 1599, Thomas Gipps; (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5KS-8C6 : 12 March 2020), Mary Sheerwoode in entry for Thomas Gipps, 1599.

    4. [S0344] Ancestry, England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988, (ancestry.co.uk), 10 May 1637, Brockman / Gibbs [sic]; Place: London, London, England; Collection: St Michael Paternoster; -; Date Range: 1568 - 1666; Film Number: 374505.

    5. [S0508] Edward Hasted, History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent, (Canterbury, 1797), Footnote, p. 147.